ERIC HELMS: TRAINING IN A DEFICIT: WHAT THE RESEARCH ACTUALLY SAYS ABOUT VOLUME, MUSCLE LOSS & FAT LOSS PHASE PROGRAMMING | EP. 222

ERIC HELMS: TRAINING IN A DEFICIT: WHAT THE RESEARCH ACTUALLY SAYS ABOUT VOLUME, MUSCLE LOSS & FAT LOSS PHASE PROGRAMMING | EP. 222

Author: Brandon DaCruz June 15, 2026 Duration: 1:56:01

How you train during a Fat Loss Phase determines whether you finish the diet leaner and more defined or just smaller and softer. But the conversation around how to actually train during a deficit has become one of the most polarized debates in the evidence-based fitness space.


One camp says you should proactively reduce training volume the moment you enter a deficit because recovery is compromised and you need to focus on the minimum stimulus required to maintain muscle. 


Another camp says you should increase training volume to offset the catabolic environment of a deficit and use training as an additional energy expenditure tool. 


In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Eric Helms to break this debate down piece by piece. We interrogate the research each camp leans on, talk about where it holds up and where it falls apart when applied to intermediate to advanced trainees. 


HERE’S WHAT WE COVER:

THE TWO CAMPS DOMINATING THE TRAINING IN A DEFICIT CONVERSATION

WHY THE TRAIN LESS POSITION HAS LEGITIMATE PHYSIOLOGY BEHIND IT BUT GETS MISAPPLIED

THE BICKEL 2011 PAPER AND WHY IT GETS PULLED INTO THIS DEBATE INCORRECTLY

WHY MAINTENANCE TRAINING IN ENERGY BALANCE IS NOT THE SAME AS MAINTENANCE TRAINING IN A DEFICIT

THE TRAIN MORE CAMP’S CASE AND WHERE THE LOGIC BREAKS DOWN

THE ROTH 2022 SYSTEMATIC REVIEW AND WHAT IT ACTUALLY SHOWS

WHY THE THRESHOLD TO MAINTAIN MUSCLE MAY GO UP AS WE BECOME MORE ADVANCED 

HOW ERIC’S 2023 AND 2025 PREPS SHAPED HIS THINKING ON TRAINING DURING CONTEST PREP

THE COACHING FRAMEWORK FOR ADJUSTING TRAINING REACTIVELY RATHER THAN PROACTIVELY DURING A CUT


If you’ve ever cut volume the moment you entered a deficit because you assumed your body couldn’t handle the load, if you’ve ever cranked up training volume in a cut to try to drive more output, or if you’ve finished a Fat Loss Phase feeling smaller but not leaner and wondered what your training should have actually looked like, this episode will give you the framework to approach your next cut with clarity rather than guesswork.


WHERE TO CONNECT WITH ME:


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Email: Bdacruzfitness@gmail.com


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Hosted by Brandon DaCruz, Chasing Clarity: Health & Fitness Podcast cuts through the noise of an often overwhelming industry. Instead of quick fixes, Brandon and his co-host Jeff build conversations from a place of genuine partnership, tackling everything from meal planning and workout splits to the less-discussed mental hurdles of a fitness journey. Their dynamic feels more like a dialogue between friends who’ve been in the trenches, making complex topics in nutrition, training, and body composition feel accessible and actionable. What you’ll find here is a practical blend of solid information and real-world application, designed for anyone who wants to move past confusion and build sustainable habits. This isn't about rigid dogma; it's about finding what actually works for you. Tune into the podcast for honest discussions that aim to replace frustration with understanding, one episode at a time.
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