The AI Marketing Playbook top CMOs are using right now | Nuno Leal (EY Studio +)

The AI Marketing Playbook top CMOs are using right now | Nuno Leal (EY Studio +)

Author: Sundar Swaminathan February 26, 2026 Duration: 49:39

Nuno Leal is the EY Studio+ CMO Practice Leader where he gets to work with the world's biggest CMOs on implementing their AI vision.

In this conversation, we discuss the challenges organizations face in integrating AI into their marketing strategies, the importance of experimentation, and the need for a balance between brand and performance marketing.

Takeaways

  • Many companies are struggling to become fully integrated marketing organizations.
  • The pressure to adopt AI often leads to scattered efforts without focus.
  • A solid data foundation is crucial for effectively utilizing Gen.AI.
  • Organizations should prioritize one or two high-impact areas for AI implementation.
  • Experimentation is key to effective marketing strategies.
  • Marketing teams will need to adapt their structures to include more technical skills.
  • Creativity will be a significant differentiator in the future of marketing.

Chapters

  • 00:00 Challenges in Marketing Organizations
  • 08:43 Building Data Foundation for AI
  • 16:24 Effective AI Implementation
  • 25:02 Evolution of Marketing Roles
  • 32:31 CMOs and the Future of Marketing

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