A Palestinian Love Story with Devin Atallah and Sarah Ihmoud

A Palestinian Love Story with Devin Atallah and Sarah Ihmoud

Author: How to Survive the End of the World June 14, 2025 Duration: 1:27:41

adrienne is joined at her home by Devin Atallah and Sarah Ihmoud to hear their love story. They discuss what love has to do with solidarity, falling in love, Palestinians in love, searching for love, eternal love, self love, decolonial love, love during a genocide, Palestine as a land of love, love as a way of breaking the cycle, love and light, idealized love, dreams as love, being activated by love, love as rerouting and love for humanity.

Devin Atallah is an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Massachusetts Boston (UMB). He is a diaspora Palestinian from the USA and Chile. Dr. Atallah developed a Palestinian decolonial healing guide with colleagues, CURCUMs Trees: A Decolonial Healing Guide for Palestinian Community Health Workers, which is available in English and Arabic with Mayfly Books.

Sarah Ihmoud is a Chicana-Palestinian anthropologist who works to uplift the lived experiences, histories, and political contributions of Palestinian women and Palestinian feminism. She is a founding member of the Palestinian Feminist Collective, an executive board member of Insaniyyat, the Society of Palestinian Anthropologists, and is assistant professor of anthropology at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, MA.

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Sisters Autumn Brown and adrienne maree brown host How to Survive the End of the World, a podcast rooted in their shared lives as writers, activists, and facilitators shaped by multiracial diasporic lineages. This isn't a theoretical discussion about distant catastrophes; it's a direct, grounded conversation about the endings we are all already living through-the collapse of systems, the death of old ways, and the personal transformations that feel like worlds dissolving. Each episode delves into the tangible, often messy practices a community needs to navigate these ruptures. You'll hear them explore how we grieve, how we organize, how we imagine futures, and how we find wholeness even as things fall apart. The dialogue is intimate and urgent, moving from the kitchen table to the front lines of social change, always asking what it means to survive with integrity and connection. This podcast operates from the belief that learning to face endings together is the first, most necessary step toward building something new. For more from Autumn and adrienne, find them at endoftheworldshow.org.
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How to Survive the End of the World
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