RS362: Hidden Multipliers with Jason Cohen

RS362: Hidden Multipliers with Jason Cohen

Author: Craig Hewitt August 11, 2026 Duration: 50:43
What happens when AI changes the rules of building a software company? According to Jason Cohen, the answer isn't to predict the future. It's to build around things that remain valuable no matter how technology changes. In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt talks with Jason Cohen, founder of WP Engine and SmartBear and author of Hidden Multipliers, about growth, strategy, positioning, and building durable businesses in an age of AI. Jason explains why founders should focus on the transformation customers actually want instead of simply adding AI to their products, why repositioning a product can dramatically increase its value, and how to identify the special combination of strengths, customers, and opportunities where your business can win. Craig and Jason also dig into what kinds of jobs AI is likely to replace, why human creativity and personality remain incredibly valuable, how Jason develops the ideas behind his writing, and why copying someone else's successful framework rarely works without adapting it to your own company culture. Whether you're building a bootstrapped SaaS company, leading a growing startup, or trying to figure out where your business fits in an AI-driven world, this conversation is full of practical ways to think more clearly about strategy, growth, and competitive advantage. Highlights from Craig and Jason’s conversation: How to make strategic decisions in an uncertain market What customers will still value in the age of AI Why AI should solve customer problems rather than simply be added to products How positioning can dramatically increase a product's value Why senior developers benefit more from AI than junior developers What chess teaches us about AI and human creativity Why human personalities still matter in content and marketing How Jason Cohen developed the ideas behind Hidden Multipliers Why copying successful business frameworks often fails How founders can find their own strategic advantage The right and wrong ways to use metrics What AI means for the future of SaaS Resources and Links from This Episode: AI Skills which facilitate ideas from the book and Jason’s articles https://longform.asmartbear.com/ Jason on X: https://x.com/asmartbear hiddenmultipliers.com  Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools Email me: podcast@roguestartups.com  Find me on X: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt Craig on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/  

Behind every new company is a story, and Rogue Startups digs into the real ones-the messy, uncertain, and exhilarating paths founders actually walk. This isn't about polished success tales; it's a candid look at the day-to-day grind of building a business from the ground up. You'll hear directly from entrepreneurs in the thick of it, along with seasoned experts who specialize in the crucial engines of growth: sales, marketing, and product development. Conversations focus on practical tactics, particularly around scaling productized services and SaaS offerings, exploring the real "how" behind their growth hacking strategies. The value of this podcast lies in that shared experience-hearing how others navigate the very obstacles you might be staring down, and learning what moves actually led to a win. It’s for anyone who prefers the unvarnished truth of entrepreneurship over theory, offering a sense of camaraderie and a toolbox of ideas drawn from the front lines. Tune in for authentic dialogue that skips the fluff and gets straight to the challenges and victories of building something new.
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RS326: 5 Things Most Founders Struggle With [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 19:12
Today’s a solo episode with Craig where he’s talking through the 5 common topics and themes that he helps most of his coaching clients through. Whether it’s through his 1:1 coaching with private clients or in serving as…
RS325: Stuck? Ask Yourself These 3 Questions [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 10:00
Are you a SaaS founder feeling stuck, unmotivated, or unsure about your next move? In this video, I dive into three powerful questions that can help you break through mental barriers and gain clarity on your business’s d…
RS324: $100 Million Bootstrapped SaaS with Adam Robinson [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 41:34
In this episode of the Rogue Startups podcast, Craig sits down with Adam Robinson to explore key topics such as founder psychology, overcoming self-limiting beliefs, and avoiding self-sabotage. They delve into how to ide…
RS323: Breaking Through Plateaus with Josh Ho [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 51:33
Today on the Rogue Startups Podcast, Craig chats with Josh Ho from Referral Rock about the peaks and valleys of being a founder. When is the right time to sell? Is there ever a right time? How do you break through a plat…
RS322: Marketing, in 2 hours a week [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 16:17
In this episode Craig descirbes his current SaaS marketing approach. Balancing Active and Passive marketing, he’s got his marketing time down to just a few hours a week. Using a video-first, AI-assisted workflow he’s rea…
RS321: B2B Lead Gen on LinkedIn [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 47:30
If there’s one thing Craig loves more than podcasting, it’s sales. In this episode, he shares his enthusiasm with tech sales coach Peter Ahn. They discuss everything from bridging the gap between creating content and dri…
RS320: The Psychology of Sales [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:26
Clearly Design works in every aspect from branding to marketing, from product to promotion. Go to Clearly.Design for a discount on his monthly design subscription service. Tell him that Rogue Startups sent you. What gets…
RS319: Mastering LinkedIn Video Content [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 50:21
Clearly Design works in every aspect from branding to marketing, from product to promotion. Go to Clearly.Design for a discount on his monthly design subscription service. Tell him that Rogue Startups sent you. Danny Del…
RS318: LinkedIn Content That Converts [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 44:17
Clearly Design works in every aspect from branding to marketing, from product to promotion. Go to Clearly.Design for a discount on his monthly design subscription service. Today Craig is chatting with Nemanja Zivkovic ab…