4.28 Coach Matt Centrowitz Sr Part 1

4.28 Coach Matt Centrowitz Sr Part 1

Author: Matthew Kleinosky August 22, 2026 Duration: 44:23

Episode 4.28: Matt Centrowitz Sr., Part 1 Four-time U.S. 5,000-meter champion Matt Centrowitz Sr. takes us from a tough childhood in New York City to becoming one of America's best distance runners. Matt talks about how track "saved his life," transferring to Power Memorial, training in Central Park and Van Cortlandt Park, and his breakthrough high school summer when he raced Craig Virgin, ran 8:56 for two miles and eventually 4:02 for the mile. Centro tells how being rejected by legendary Villanova coach Jumbo Elliott ultimately led him to Oregon, where he learned from Bill Dellinger and Steve Prefontaine. He explains what he saw in Pre's training that others missed, why his first year at Oregon turned out to be a blessing, and how his experience in the 1976 Olympics convinced him that his future was in the 5,000 meters. We also get inside his American-record 5,000-meter race with Alberto Salazar, his four straight national championships, Oregon's one-point 1977 NCAA cross-country championship, and his reaction to losing the 1980 Moscow Olympics to the U.S. boycott—including a memorable White House story involving Jimmy Carter that came full circle 25 years later. Matt's book, Like Father, Like Son: My Story on Running, Coaching and Parenting, tells the much bigger story—from his childhood and his own running career to coaching and raising two outstanding runners, including his son Matthew Centrowitz, the 2016 Olympic 1500-meter champion. And Matt's story is now coming to the screen in the upcoming Like Father Like Son documentary.Watch the documentary trailer:⁠https://vimeo.com/1197181663/4b3d83eb86⁠


Matthew Kleinosky hosts Running In The 70s, a podcast that steps off the beaten path of modern running culture to explore a pivotal decade in the sport. Instead of focusing on stats and records, each conversation is a journey into personal memory. You'll hear directly from the men and women who were there-cross country runners grinding through autumn mud, track athletes pushing the limits on cinder and early synthetic surfaces, and road racers who helped ignite the first mass-participation boom. Their stories capture the unique texture of the era: the training methods without today's technology, the rivalries, the sheer love of the run, and how the landscape of the sport was fundamentally changing beneath their feet. This podcast isn't just about nostalgia; it's about understanding the foundation upon which today's running world is built, told through the vivid, often surprising recollections of those who lived it. Tune in for intimate, meandering interviews that feel like sitting down with a fellow runner after a long workout, uncovering the heart and hustle of 1970s running one story at a time.
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4.32 1977 IUP Mens XC Hall of Fame team [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 45:43
In this special reunion episode, members of the historic 1977 Indiana University of Pennsylvania (IUP) Men's cross country team gather to celebrate their upcoming induction into the IUP Sports Hall of Fame. Matthew joins…
4.31 Dipsea Race Gang [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:14:25
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4.30 Charlie Duggan [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:11:12
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4.29 Coach Matt Centrowitz Sr. Part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:55
In the second half of his conversation, Matt Centrowitz Sr. traces his path from elite athlete to influential coach. He describes working with Frank Gagliano and the Reebok Enclave—one of America’s pioneering post-colleg…
4.27 Gertrude Betsy Peace [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 55:55
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4.26 Brad Kron [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:01:59
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4.25 Bill Scobey (Mad Dog) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 51:48
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4.24 Tom Derderian Part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 35:22
Running in the 70s Episode 4.24 Tom Derderian, Part 2In part 2, we discuss shoe design, racing and meeting other elite runners, Tom's coaching philosophy and more ... Tom Derderian, 1964, UMass, OLY trial 1972/1976, Co-F…
4.23 Tom Derderian Part 1 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 50:33
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4.22 Hans Koeleman OLY [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:14:22
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