How to Hire the Right People (Without Wasting Time or Money) with Madi Wagonner

How to Hire the Right People (Without Wasting Time or Money) with Madi Wagonner

Author: Aleasha Bahr October 9, 2025 Duration: 25:55
Hiring the right people shouldn’t feel like gambling with your time, money, and peace of mind. Yet for many founders, it often does. The problem isn’t a lack of good talent; it’s the absence of a clear and intentional structure behind the hiring process. Without it, even the most well-meaning entrepreneurs end up hiring reactively instead of strategically. In this episode of Sales is Not a Dirty Word, Aleasha Bahr sits down with Madi Wagonner, founder of Building Remote, to explore what it really takes to build a hiring system that consistently attracts self-driven, resourceful people who take ownership and contribute real value. Madi is known for helping entrepreneurs “fire themselves” from day-to-day operations so they can focus on higher-level leadership, growth, and the work that fuels them. Her approach to hiring and onboarding doesn’t just fill empty seats. It builds alignment, loyalty, and a shared sense of purpose that keeps teams performing long after the honeymoon phase ends. You’ll learn: ✔ Why most hiring failures happen before the first interview even begins ✔ How to write job descriptions that filter for the right people and naturally repel the wrong ones ✔ The 4–6 week hiring process that turns uncertainty into confident decision-making ✔ The onboarding method that creates motivation, ownership, and trust from day one ✔ How to recognize candidates who are resourceful, adaptable, and aligned with your company’s vision ✔ Why approaching hiring like a sales process helps you attract, not chase, top talent If you’ve ever felt drained by bad hires, or caught yourself thinking, “No one can do it like I do,” this conversation will challenge that mindset and give you a roadmap for doing it differently. With the right structure, you can build a team that not only supports your business but grows with it. 👉 Learn more from Madi Wagonner at buildingremote.co. It’s time to hire with clarity, lead with confidence, and build a business that thrives without burning you out.

Ever feel like the whole idea of "selling" makes your skin crawl? You're not alone, but what if everything you've been told about sales is wrong? Sales is NOT a Dirty Word is built on the idea that genuine connection, not manipulation, is the real engine of business growth. Host Aleasha Bahr, creator of the Matchmaker Sales method™, dismantles the high-pressure stereotypes one conversation at a time. Instead of scripts and tricks, she opens up her playbook, sharing insights and strategies typically reserved for her private coaching clients-where achieving an 80% conversion rate on sales calls isn't a fantasy, but a regular outcome. Each episode of this podcast features candid talks with experts who offer alternative, refreshingly human perspectives on the process. You'll hear real stories about building trust, understanding client needs deeply, and creating agreements that feel good for everyone involved. This isn't about learning to pretend; it's about discovering a framework where your authenticity becomes your greatest asset in closing deals. Tune in to transform your approach from something you dread into a natural, even enjoyable, part of your professional life.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

Sales is NOT a Dirty Word
Podcast Episodes
How To Sell More With Tone [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 9:17
Ever heard that it’s not WHAT you say - it’s HOW you say it that matters? It’s true. I would not be surprised if there were murders every year based on tone alone. Some sales experts will tell you to focus on tone - whic…
Transforming Self-Sabotage into Self-Made Success [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:45
Ever feel like you're your own worst enemy? Like you’re driving with one foot on the gas and the other on the brake? This is a far too common experience for humans and I sat down with Tracy Pleschourt, the mastermind beh…
How to Hate Sales Strategy Less - and Make More Money as a Result [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 12:23
There’s this predominant feeling among people that marketing is sexy and sales is sleazy - even though they are very related. In this episode, I unravel the mystery behind many people’s preference for marketing over sale…
Increasing Sales Without The Hustle & Grind [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 36:43
Business without burning out seems like a myth to most people The truth is actually, you will be far more successful when you drop the hustle & grind and come from a place of flow. What the hell is “flow”? Well, Kami Gui…
Increasing Your Sales With Pre-Call Education [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 12:47
If you’re hearing things like “this is a lot to process”, “thank you for this valuable information”, “let me get back to you” - it’s a sign that you are over educating on your sales calls. Educating and selling at the sa…
How Sales And Dating Are The Same [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:18
What do sales & dating have in common? Well, everything as you’ll see in this episode. If you’re trying to marry anyone who will have you - people can feel that just like prospects can smell your commission breath. Rita…
Avoid Scope Creep & Increase Client Retention [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 12:12
Want to know the fastest and most unexpected way to increase your revenue and client retention? Clear boundaries. People pleasers often think someone will like them more if they do more, never say no and go above and bey…
Most Effective Methods for Handling Objections [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 11:59
The mainstream way of handling objections is wildly ineffective. It’s convincing energy and it’s not convincing anyone. Instead, it ends up making the prospect feel dismissed and invalidated instead of seen and heard. It…
Can AI Make Sales for You? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 23:45
In the latest trend of business owners avoiding doing sales themselves or hiring salespeople - there has been a new movement towards AI “doing the sales for you.” It’s an interesting concept and one that Noah Jacobs is a…