Long/Short Commodities with Emil van Essen & Bryan Kiernan of Katonah/EVE

Long/Short Commodities with Emil van Essen & Bryan Kiernan of Katonah/EVE

Author: RCM Alternatives September 14, 2023 Duration: 50:34

From front-running commodity index rolls to trading spreads, we're taking you on a bit of a historic journey with Emil Van Essen and Bryan Kiernan of Katonah Eve. Join us as we explore the evolution of their strategies and firm, while talking the world of commodities.

In this episode, we'll uncover the evolution of Katonah Eve, from pulling data ahead of the game to mastering roll yields and transitioning into the world of spread trading. We'll also discuss what it takes to survive so long in this business, going institutional for in-house operations, and how they have more than just skin in the game, they’re putting skin in the the pre-game as well to test new sources of Alpha.

We unpack what makes their Long/Short Commodity strategy different, and how long/short differs from trend, and explore topics like term structure, spread trading and data, the importance of diversification, and the importance of testing ideas with live ammunition. And we can’t talk with Emil without talking about the energy patch, the crypto space, and China – all of which we touch on. SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-01:57= Intro

01:58-4:38= Mountain Bike Racing?

3:56-15:35= Evolution of EVE: Pulling data ahead of the game & Roll yields to spread trading

15:36-22:38= Expanding in-house infrastructure, market making, and the constant search for Alpha

22:39-37:15= Long/short Commodities, Term structure, Spread vs Trend & Diversification in Commodity markets

37:16-50:34= The Energy guy, Alpha in Crypto & inside China


From the episode:

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