Writing in the Age of AI - Gemini Notebook’s Steven Johnson with Nicholas Thompson

Writing in the Age of AI - Gemini Notebook’s Steven Johnson with Nicholas Thompson

Author: Atlantic Re:think August 12, 2026 Duration: 1:02:28
Steven Johnson spent decades figuring out the best ways to turn his research into words on the page. Now, he’s adapting those methods for Gemini Notebook, Google’s AI-powered interactive bibliography. (Until recently, it was called NotebookLM.) But in building a tool designed to synthesize ideas, is there a risk of taking humans too far out of the writing process? In conversation with The Atlantic’s Nicholas Thompson, Johnson discusses the best practices, ethics, and limitations of using AI as a collaborator. The Atlantic has a licensing agreement with Gemini Notebook, and Google also advertises with The Atlantic. This episode was not a part of those deals. Produced independently of The Atlantic’s editorial staff. Supporting sponsor: PwC. (00:00) Introduction (05:10) The evolution of Steven's writing process  (08:22) Managing the "iceberg" of research (11:45) The ethics of AI-assisted writing (19:02) What happens when AI becomes as good at writing as humans (24:17) Why some genres could change drastically with AI (29:10) How AI might undo polarization  (34:45) Designing educational guardrails for AI (44:26) What will AI do to writing styles? (49:10) Licensing author personas and protecting creators (56:52) A rule of thumb for how to use AI  (58:00) What Steven would do if he had an unlimited budget to invest in AI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nicholas Thompson sits down with some of the sharpest minds working at the edges of artificial intelligence in The Most Interesting Thing in A.I.. This isn't a dry technical briefing or a series of speculative futures; instead, each conversation digs into the tangible, often surprising ways this technology is already altering the fabric of our daily lives and institutions. You'll hear from leading thinkers who cut through the hype to discuss the real ethical dilemmas, economic shifts, and social transformations unfolding right now. Produced by Atlantic Re:think and PwC, the podcast provides a grounded space to explore questions about creativity, power, work, and truth in an age of intelligent machines. The discussions are built on the premise that understanding AI's impact requires looking beyond code and algorithms to consider human values and consequences. Tune in for thoughtful, accessible dialogues that reframe how we think about one of the most significant forces of our time.
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